2006-03-26

La Vitesse

They got me doing 67 m.p.h. on the M11. The speed limit there is 70 m.p.h. except for the section of temporary roadworks where I was photographed, where it's 50 m.p.h. I have a fixed penalty offer of £60 plus three points on my licence.

Why is the penalty system based on twelve points when only three- and six-point fines are handed out? A four-point system would work just fine.

Safe Speed conducts independent research into how cameras have made our roads more dangerous by taking the responsibility for setting a safe speed out of the hands of motorists and diverting driver attention from all other road concerns in speed trap areas. There's a lot more to safe driving than speed but no other issue is so profitable for the authorities nor so capable of driving a wedge between otherwise law-abiding citizens and the police over the last five years.

When I'd heard nothing after two weeks I thought I might get away with it but I wasn't the registered owner of the vehicle and they're allowed more time to find out who was driving. The "cash camera" swindle would grind to a halt if everyone in my position opted for a court appearance instead of a fixed penalty but unless everyone is actually going to do it then I think I'll refrain from making an example of myself on this occasion.

17 Comments:

Blogger C said...

That totally sucks! :( I hate speed traps.

As to the 12 points - is there a way to earn back only 1 or 2 points by going to traffic school or something? That's the only reason I can think of for not having a 4 point system since they'd have to award fractions of a point in that case.

How did they find out it was you, if you weren't the registered owner? Rental? What if you're driving a friend's car??

Part of me says they're cheating with the cameras, but another part of me would be glad they're free to use those otherwise indisposed cops for busting criminals, if, in fact they don't just sit in the station house swilling coffee and doughnuts. :-/

14:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand the whole point system :(

Welcome back, though, Marcus!

16:49  
Blogger The Paranoid Mod said...

hmm. Not sure about that safe speed website. Having the tagline "you can't measure safe driving in miles per hour" is pretty dumb. Er. You can. Drive at 5 mph, noone gets killed. Simple as that. These are the people who support vandalising speed cameras, I suppose.

I'm all for speed cameras, especially since 47% of people caught speeding are driving bmw's. Fact.

17:08  
Blogger C said...

I agree that you can't measure safe driving in mph. I've seen old grannies seriously impeding traffic by traveling way too slow on the highway. And reckless drivers can be doing 25 and cause wrecks, while a safe driver on the highway where everyone's doing 80 (very common here) is fine.

PM are you a car makeist? ;o)

18:05  
Blogger The Paranoid Mod said...

A car makeist? Only in the sense that all bmw drivers are evil...
It's always bmws who drive 6 inches off your bumper at 80mph. Never mercedes or audis or volvos or anyone else. Is my experience.

Most speed cameras are simply enforcing a sensible limit, especially in towns. I've been flashed a couple of times but never got a ticket - they don't put film in all the cameras cos it would make too much work!!

21:38  
Blogger C said...

LOL!

Bloody
Monkeys
With cars

It still seems like cheating. :oP And I'm not aven a speeder.

02:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've nearly been done before by those damn temporary roadworks sections of motorway, where no one seems to have a clue what the speed is and it must be more than you're doing because all those BMWs are cruising past you... Never thought about the 12-point system; I don't think you get points back for good behaviour, nice idea though it is. Why don't you write to the DVLA to ask them?

08:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to step in here... I've got a beemer, a 1989 model I bought cos it's good to drive, not for the badge. I only tailgate when people pull out in front of me... or block a clear lane so I have a queue behind me. And even then I tend to ease back pretty quickly. Which from what I see covers 95% of drivers. Marcus might tell you I'm a nice bloke despite the bmw... I'm also a biker. and I have half a 1967 Triumph at home that may one day be whole again

As for the 12 point thing, there are a few 4 point offences I think, and you can get anything upto 10 for careless/reckless/drunk driving. I think.

Tone

17:11  
Blogger The Paranoid Mod said...

I think the half finished triumph absolves you there, tone. And clearly the wankers are driving newer models, that's why they're wankers, they think it counts...

17:22  
Blogger Jason said...

I'm just trying to figure out how you're going "mph" and not "kph." Were you driving on the right side of the road, too?

17:57  
Blogger Brad said...

I'm all for the 4 point system.
I'll sign a petetion for you if you write it up.

18:01  
Blogger C said...

Tony, maybe they secretly hate you and talk about you behind your back.:-/ (OK that's mean, sorry)

Beemer folk here seem to be like everyone else. No big whoopie, just another car.

I suppose it's called English measurement for a reason. Did metric fail as abysmally there as it has here?

18:34  
Blogger thisismarcus said...

Where did all these people come from?!

Tone: don't worry about The Mod. He's never happier than when he's having a good rant. Actually, you two met at my 21st birthday party in Canterbury...

Mod: Tone was the one not throwing up everywhere.

Shig & Kosmo: Nice ideas but I'm gonna keep a low profile instead.

Jason: we got miles here. It's only on the continent where everything's metric. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to play a Kilometers Davis record.

21:22  
Blogger Hilary said...

I hate those temporary roadwork things.. seem so pointless half the time

They've been trying to convert us to metric for years, the bastards. I still like to get my milk in pints and my vegetables in pounds...

Long live the mile... it means I can make an estimation of the amount of time it will take to get home... 60 miles? about an hour (remember, I tend to be driving into town/round countryside and my old car would shake at high speed!).

Oh, and BMW/Jag/white van men are the bane of my life being a cyclist... eeek! don't squash me!

10:37  
Blogger The Paranoid Mod said...

I only remember the throwing up person really. Not throwing up doesn't tend to stick in the memory so much.

Candace - we have some metric stuff, ie fruit and veg in kg and petrol in litres. It's actually illegal to sell things in pounds and ounces, some greengrocer got taken to court a while back for just that. Silly, really. But then we also have road signs in miles and talk about our height in feet and inches. A good british compromise that helps noone.

11:25  
Blogger C said...

OMG - COURT?!?! I feel I should be outraged at the injustice, but instead I laugh in a most unladylike manner. :o)

16:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We most probly have the most screwed up measurement system on the planet... I've heard of engineers spec'ing components in mm with tolerances in thousandths of an inch. And you can only sell petrol in litres but we all use miles (and miles/gallon or miles/quid...). The EU will probly force us to change one day, and our weak government will comply (and then lose the next election). Have you noticed all the new motorway signs are at 1/3rd and 2/3rds mile before the junction... just happens to be 1/2 and 1 km... Hmmm

Wow, I've met mod... that was a funny party, so glad I didn't try the pipe of puke... but it was funny to watch. I had to roll up the rug to sleep... eugh.

I got cut up twice this morning on my (motor)bike, and last night I couldn't see on the way home cos the wierd rain we were having just wouldn't leave my visor... D'oh and Eek.

Tone

15:05  

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